The GREAT Tomsbytwo Christmas Quiz
1 Where are Stuart and Christi? (pictured)
2 Why aren’t they still involved?
3 Why is the photo album that is the centre of the Carl Webb claims locked away?
3.5 .. and exactly who locked it away?
4 What, if anything, did Derek Abbott have to do with sourcing the photo album.
5 Who tagged the photo?
6 Is it the only tagged photo in the album?
7 What proof is there that the photo was taken in the twenties?
7.5 Why won’t Gordon Cramer allow me to comment on his website?
8 Why would some claim the man tagged as Carl Webb in the photo should be three inches taller than his grandfather when everybody else says he shouldn’t be?
9 Can anybody explain why Coroner Cleland either wasn’t given or ignored crucial evidence?
9.5 Is Dusty related to Someone in a Higher Authority?
10 Would the original Rubaiyat have been considered a necessity in Naval Intelligence’s attempt to decrypt the code?
10.5 And why does Nick Pelling think not?
11 Do you really believe the original Rubaiyat was lost only days after DS Leane received it from Chemist Freeman?
11.5 Is it wrong to be nice to SteveH?
12 Why did Chemist Freeman stay silent all of his life?
13 Is Nick Pelling better looking than Gordon Cramer?
14 Why did the other three people in Chemist Freeman’s car when the Rubaiyat was found also remain silent for all of their lives
15 Would they have mentioned the finding to their families?
16 If so, why did they remain silent for all of their lives?
17 Is it true that Dude47 was seen driving a Tesla?
18 Why did Dr. Dwyer expect analyst Cowan to find traces of barbiturates in the Somerton Man’s stomach contents?
19 Why was a bloodstain found on the shoulder of the Somerton Man’s shirt?
20 Was a similar stain found on his singlet, his pullover or his coat?
21 Does Amy look sick to you? (she died not long after the photo was taken and after a long illness)
22 .. and why isn’t her daughter Amy in the shot?
23 Is Clive really 85?
24 Is No.1 living next door to Milongal?
25 And lastly, do you think Gordon Cramer has got all these questions sorted in his upcoming book?
The Somerton Man .. 
It would have been announced officially that Carl Webb is Somerton man long ago
So he isn’t
Move on
Webbs are no longer involved
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Q13: Too close to call Peteb. In my best looks comparison, Nick Pelling’s bald pate mate and Christmas G. Cramer’s bare arse would be a fair match.
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Thank you my man, your answer has been submitted to our jurors in the event it has some potential to widen the offered prize money limits. Put yourself down for four and sixpence ha’penny.
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Q9.5: Yes. According to Pelling’s Ms. Steph fat Dusty be related to Mr. Donald J. Quizling Trumpet; Can’t get any higher authority than that aye?
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Q1 SA Coroner’s Office?
Q9.5 Unlikely
Q10 Yes
Q11 No
Q11.5 No
Q12 Took wrong tablets?
Q13 50/50
Q14 See Q12
Q17 Probably
Q21 No
Q22 Took photo?
Q23 No comment
Q24 Which cell #?
Q25 Of course!
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Q7.5 You’re not the only one can’t get a word in edgeways on Cramer’s bogsplot Peteb. It’s been closed to comments for ten days, even to Jo Jo and Anon.
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I’m confounded by 10.5 .. like how could a chap who has spent the better part of his life digging around the VM’s sacred chapters spurn the idea that a squiz at the original RoK might have assisted the toilers who were tasked with sorting out a code allegedly written on the back cover?
And I use the word allegedly with a caution.
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Q10.5 And to think that y’man must have got himself a fairly decent public school education too. Seems on the last day of school he done left his thinking cap in the vestibule. That would explain his never having cracked a code and why Mysteries be the key element to all his simple Ciphers.
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Q24 Is it true that in 2004 dude47 smoked three joints of Thai budda in a cafe in Amsterdam, moved on to a Thai restaurant ,ate 3 bowls of tom yum soup over 2 hours before realising he left his wallet and room key unattended in the dope cafe?
Q25 Were the wallet and keys still in the cafe when he went back?
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Three Thai joints? Must have been some ordinary green, half of one did me full time back in the day .. then again I didn’t fancy the Fed Police delivering a gift from young brother who bought cheap in Durban .. poison that shit.
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Wanna get something’ll make you think, can’t get better than Pleiku Pink. That’s some high grade stink weed. Kid you not.
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It may have been “northern lights” come to think of it. The Tom yum soup was the best I ever tasted.
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Q11.5 : Steve H. or whoever she claims to be depending on that time of the month girly girl stuff, lies like a bitch on heat, which of course she is,. Whatsmore, Nick Pelling @10.5 : picking up on her dominant feminine estrogen scent, will jump right in there to cover her irrisistable spin to the Nth; if you get my drift.
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I’m looking at 14 15 & 16 and wondering how many people knew about the Rubaiyat finding, big news like that would be discussed at the dinner table, the pub, the club, the golf course, the bowlo.. on the phone, in a letter.
But not a word was publicly said, not a bloody whisper.
What do YOU reckon Stevo? Come on down matey, fear not my brave lad.
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Q!0.5 …More to the moot point, Nick Pelling “thinks not” when the question of Naval Intelligence comes into play re the ROK which by his educated reckoning is an oxymoron, or something similar to poxy moron @ Steve H. (Q11.5 above).
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I think it was all knowing Detective Sgt. Feltus who gave us the “brother-in-law” version of his having found the Rubaiyat on the front floor pan? of the little Hillman Tesla? before puting it in the glove box where it sat for six months unoticed. Don’t know if it helps or hinders the net value of Qs 14, 15, & 16. There were other vastky differing versions of the find that may answer such questions and make some sense of it all, eg., 12(a), 14(a), 15(a) and 16(a); question thus being “What fucking Rubaiyat mate”?
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Have another squiz at this piece of less than masterful evasion by Detective Len Brown.
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Trying to visualise how Det Brown replied to Littlemore’s questions. Did he avoid eye contact? Was he careful in his choice of words? Ill at ease in answering?
Det Brown’s replies suggest to me that he knew all too well what happened to the ROK and, the last thing he was going to admit was why and when.
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Sorted
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Q11.5: refers to Steve H. of male gender to most. Then why pray tell does fat Dusty insist on calling her Steph, knowing full well that she was likely born a bloke?. Simple reason being she complains like a bitch and groans like a sheila. That’s for sure, nothing less nothing more, and whatsmore, she’s such a bore, having all the usual graces of your average lowdown filthy beneath contempt, mentally bankrupt, distracted and slaternly TRUMP aping, bugle blowing whore.
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SteveH likens the silence of all those connected to the RoK finding to the likewise silence of Christi and Stuart after their grand revelation, but which is more likely to have been their late realisation that they were looking at a photo taken about ten years later than initially thought – and, that being the case the blonde tagged Carl Charles Webb is in fact the blonde named Richard Charles Webb … something our dear Professor has nightmares about I’m sure.
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Thing not open to debate, just one of many self serving bold arse lies from Steph that is overlooked time after time without intervention by the modulator. I refer to Steve H’s claims of the name ‘dusty’ being exclusive to female gender, when truth be known ‘dusty is gender neutral. Case in point Miller McLeod Everson, was the most ornery shoot-em-up King of the Cowboys in 30s & 40s western moviedom. His main gun slinger roles were as ‘Dusty King’ in the best selling Range Buster series and Pokey SANDERS in the Gentleman from Arizona. So there you are folks truth at last. PS. My mate John ‘dusty’ Rapp 1945/68 my forward scout offsider will be forever remembered as Dusty and never a better soldier in my books.
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In fact it was yours truly who bestowed the nickname Dusty on a fellow some years ago as he liked to throw up so much detail it was likened to having dust thrown into your eyes ..
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Best you resume posting my worthy contributions Peteb or pay the consequences as per Stephs prediction. The ball’s in your court my man; if you have any; say what?
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Hung like a horse old son ..
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Phar Lap was a gelding, no balls of course but a heart like lion. Speaking which, lieing, thunder jumping, brief thief Steph is on the track of Bryan Littley’s child snatcher Bill Cotton and his lady love from 109 Harding St. who wasn’t home waiting as stated to Det. Mostyn Matters on 26 January 1966.
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Back to square one apropos my last deleted post; Willam Alfred Cotton, according to CM’s loose cannon sleuth Steven H., lived at Moseley St. Glenelg in 26 January 1966. From my enqiries Bill Cotton, Nancy B’s lover according to Steve H., was a licensed S/H dealer to be precise who visited Hong Kong in ’69 for 30 days, then Fiji in ’70 for 21 days. His address then being given as 604 Magill Rd. Magill, which be consistent with Sands and McDougal for 1966/67, a long way from S H.’s 105 Moseley St. Glenelg which she has an obsession with. That’s all for now and thanks PB for letting me play catch-up.
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Mate, we’ve moved on.
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Right you are on that score Peteb, moving on is the only way to go. Big question being, like where to. Must admit that I’m more that satisfied that I’ve done all I can to show the naysayers, that the Somerton Man aka Henry Salomonson is as good as in the bag for my money. As for the Beaumont case, reckon that the kids will come forward no worse for ware apart from aging soon enough. Any other tricky mysteries that need solving, don’t ask Pelling or his girl friday Steph, it’ll end up being another endless loopy loop if they get their way.
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How about you give us what you know about Salmonson, words or links, and next up we’ll give it a whirl here, ok?
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Got that, hang five and everything will be exposed.
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Cut to the quick, you’ll find all my good oil on Salomonson over a number of years which also includes self serving put downs by Cranks but not a whisper from CM central. Name was given to police on 8/12/48 as card carrying ‘Solomonson’ who was said by beer drinking aquaintance as a look alike for SM a few days after being found. Police came up clueless but I managed to track down English conman John S. and Aussie wife Audrey arriving Adelaide per SS Mooltan September ’48 and giving his address in King St. Nth Brighton a brief stroll from Somerton beach. Obviously not y’man as he died in St. Kilda 1964. More back tracking found his older brother and partner in crime Henry de La Fargue Salomonson bn. Hamstead 5/5/05 who was said to have visited Adelaide as a youngster (no arrival record) but by 1944 had disappeared from his usual haunts ie., Belgium and London. A very helpful Dutch Salomonson gene search web site could not find hide nor hair of him nor a death date, but did provide a snap of his father Johan (died 1915) and who be a spitting image of our Somerton Man’s most up to date likeness as a clean shaven young man of 20. I’ve forwarded information to Sapol in September and was very pleasantly surprised to be contacted by a detective in the cold case bureau. That’s my brief to this time and I’m standing by for word from Coroner ‘Frank’ Whittle. Any questions?
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dusty-‘standing by’ will require the patience of a saint, this is SA after all.
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Next time you or Clive has the misfortune to visit with the dead Websters over CM, perhaps you can pass on compliments to all. You might let Pat know that I’ve tracked down IT’s Jan Morris’s most likely ancester in novelist Jane Austen who in turn seems to have some close links to brothers Mike and Mal Leyland who like Jane Austen were born in Hertfordshire, settling in Australia as teenager snd ending up broke like many who bought a P76 on terms.
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On a more serious note, it’s high time we showed some interest in the Dorothy Jean Robertson missing link what was ostensibly overlooked by snapper Pelling and his minions. I’m talking about Doff’s mystery brother-in-law James Claude Crick, husband of her younger sister Phylis. Jim had been a trainee foot mechanic, working for Harley & Co. a Melbourne based surgical instrument manufacturer before the war and did service with the RAAF as a nursing orderly way behind the lines for the duration. I’m a lone wolf in wondering did he get to know Web foot Charlie through treating his foot condition or else knowing him through work as a precision instrument maker for a mutual employer in Harley & Co. Don’t know what became of Jim except that in later life he gave his employment as clerk which doesn’t help a lot. Looks like a job in need of someone adept with newspaper know-how.
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James Crick died on 4 Jul 2013, a year after Phyllis died.
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See my CM Dorothy Robertson/Webb thread post for 7/8/23 with ref to my original Jim Crick comment per Tbt. Seems that left the Webbsters out of sorts and only Alan Hamill has stayed on the Crick case through his site. I can’t enter with my limited access but yous can.
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We’re not amused Gordon. Time to turn over a new page and let the honest truth become your guiding light. Looks as if your list of dedicated followers is diminishing, even Gordon Anonymous has stopped posting; good riddance.
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Ah Clive, I think you’ll find we’re a little beyond that sort of basic stuff like when, where and in what order Mrs. Phyllis & Mr. J. C. Crick died. We don’t need the SM imposter Webb camp taking the piss y’hear. One thing of interest that might give us a break be that James (Jim) & Claude (Clod) were interchangeable. Also that Dorothy more than likely worked for Harley & Co. surgical appliance company specialising in foot care, the boss being T.O. Jones.
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Trying to figure out goings on with Tbt’s Beaumont thread is likened to extrapolating on Steve H’s total confusion with Barry Cotton’s family, relatives and friends. That includes nominated lover Nancy Beaumont, four years his senior and links to every named suspect for the kid’s abductions. I do recall there having been a brother Peter in the Cotton family mix but like the other named siblings, I had no reason then or now for follow up. Like Bryan Littely, Steve H., as she prefers these days, tends to mix fact with fancy and so Peter was likely another tall tail too. Not my fancy!
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I think dude be a notch or two below Steve H. in the school of poor rhyming skills, but that’s only to be expected, the fair sex being more creative. Speaking of whom our old girl from auntie begs me to provide an up date of sorts on ‘the Snozzers’ family (Snoswells). Not at all necessary from an authoritve stance in that, I’ve said all that needs explanation; And for conformation I’ll refer her to my related posts on the Somerton Man Ultimate Guide blog (Digital Labyrinth) of 27/28 December 2020, five long years ago. Hope that helps sweat thing.
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GC’s on to something
It ties in with Gordon and Olive not being there, and even if they were, it’s just a fabrication to make people believe that Somerton man was on the beach that evening and died there overnight
Whereas, Somerton man was never on the beach that evening, but dumped there in the wee hours of the morning
Different clothing descriptions, ties in with detail being fabricated, which reinforces Gordon and Olive were never there, and if they were there as props claiming they saw something, that doesn’t matter, the body was never there in the evening
GC’s got the detail of it all
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And, I suppose, that would answer the question as to why no other individuals came forward to report a body on the beach that evening.
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See that Cramer has been working through my in depth Bob Wake research from some years back and good for him too. If only the ‘tea leaf’ could get things straight which he always seems to miss, ie., Robert Frederick Bird Wake bn. Essendon Vic. 27 Dec. 1900 (125 Sat. next) having had his office in Brisbane, truth be that it was in Sydney when he took over newly formed ASIO field ops in 1949, up until his resignation (pre sacking) in 1950. Can’t wait to hear more about Gordon & Olive and his as yet undecidedness re their loyalty to Aussie Bob’s mob or Rusky Ivanoff @ SM, as he suggests. Dig deep Flash, dig deep enough in order thst they’ll be able to cover your dambed hide with a ton of clay sod. Sod off Mr. C. that be our plea
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The main problem with identifying witnesses, especially eye witnesses be that the ranking case officer Harry Strangway was himself tied up with another matter, that being a serious rape charge hearing for Thursday and Friday, thus no senior stand in to give direction on how now to proceed with the SM beachbody identity, cause of death etc. PCC Sutherland & Detective Gollin did well to secure statements from Jack Lyons and the courting Eureka couple, comrades Gordon & Olive by the second day.
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