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About time to call it time ..

Whoever he was, whatever he did, wherever he went, however he died, wherever he died, whoever he knew, whatever he was ..

How long will it take?

 

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    Things we do know give us a trace back to the US

    The US tie, the US jacket, the US shoes, the US combs, the US Wrigley’s Juicy Fruit chewing gum, the US Jockey undies

    The DNA trace: Soiled undies lots of DNA there, sweaty socks, other clothing items.

    DNA testing was first used for crime in 1986 https://easydna.com.au/knowledgebase/history-testing/

    The ‘holy shit’ moment. ‘They can trace this guy back through the DNA from the items in the suitcase. Get rid of everything or we’ll all be in the shit’. The suitcase and contents were all destroyed that same year, 1986.

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    September 3, 2024
  2. Clive #

    Could have just been a coincidence, surely?

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    September 3, 2024
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      Like one man lying against a sea wall in the afternoon and there again in exactly the same spot in the morning but wearing different clothes. That sort of coincidence?

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      September 3, 2024
      • … and no matches to light his smokes said PC Moss, only to be contradicted by DS Leane. That has never sat right with me.

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        September 3, 2024
        • Guzz Rating #

          It’s possible he had a lighter such as a Zippo or Ronson. My old Zippo had my name and service number engraved on it.

          If he had his name engraved on his lighter then that was as good a reason to remove it from him as his wallet…

          It doesn’t make sense that someone would take a box of matches from him but leave his smokes.

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          September 4, 2024
  3. Clive #

    Did DS Leane actually ‘find’ the matches, with others watching on, or, was it just his hearsay?

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    September 3, 2024
    • However it happened, whether to uncomplicate the investigation or for some other reason, Leane’s account of finding matches with the body is now accepted history.

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      September 3, 2024
  4. Clive #

    And with Moss just being a PC, he was brow beaten by a DS, who probably got the nod from the shadows?

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    September 3, 2024
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    No fingerprints were taken from his suitcase or contents which is concealment of evidence by omission which is an offence

    And there was a mighty big fingerprint inside his suitcase which had to be gotten rid of, his DNA fingerprint

    Which they got rid of in 1986 when DNA started being used for crime tracing. Destroy all DNA fingerprints. That’s a criminal offence when a case isn’t closed – concealment by destroying evidence. One wonders who ordered it or who snuck down and got it to destroy it. Probably thrown in a furnace somewhere.

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    September 4, 2024
  6. Clive #

    I think they got rid of ‘the’ suitcase long before 1986, as Lawson told me the suitcase in the photos was not the original. Not long after, he denied ever saying that to me, at the time he was over 100 years old, so a foggy memory perhaps or, the cat was out of the bag?

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    September 4, 2024
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    There are many photos of the suitcase. One with an ID number A48605, possibly a police item number reference. There’s also the Stuart Littlemore video of the suitcase on Detective Len Brown’s desk. Len Brown uses a circular motion to describe a sticker that was on the end of the case. How did he know it was round when it wasn’t there unless they removed it. Somerton man had numerous American items, and Pan Am had round luggage stickers to symbolise the globe and their far reaching air routes. In 1948 Pan Am flew west coast USA to Sydney via Honolulu and had a connecting flight to Melbourne which you would pay as one fare. The flight schedules are online. The scenario is Somerton man boarded in San Francisco, disembarked in Sydney and had a stopover waiting for his connecting flight to Melbourne. While in Sydney picked up some items, razor strop marked Kent Street Sydney, and some Australian clothing items, shirt, trousers. He arrived in Melbourne and made contact from his hotel. He was then sent a copy of the Rubaiyat c/- the hotel desk, which was his recognition item and it also contained the message that it was time to board the Overland train to Adelaide and proceed to Moseley St Glenelg.

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    September 4, 2024
  8. Clive #

    DS Leane couldn’t explain how the SM had smoked a cig-without matches, hence his made up story, so no awkward questions.

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    September 4, 2024
    • Same bloke who apparently lost the Rubaiyat three days before Naval Intelligence asked for all the ‘coded’evidence..

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      September 4, 2024
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    When you read DS Leane’s body language, the way he speaks and the words he chooses in the interview with Littlemore, he’s faking it. He knows what went down.

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    September 5, 2024
    • I forget #

      I always just assumed he’s a little slow….

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      September 10, 2024
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    DS Leane is on record as having said at the Coroner’s Inquest 1949 which is on public record:

    There is no fact that I know of which points towards suicide and abolishes the possibility of murder. I believe he died an unnatural death, but how I cannot say. A physical specimen as he would not just go to the beach and die

    What is intriguing is that in the interview with Littlemore he says that Somerton man committed suicide using poison “I think that he suicided” “curare” “I think he had some of that. He injected himself with it”

    Leane changed his tune, or someone in the shadows changed it for him

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    September 5, 2024
  11. Clive #

    “Curare”-now available at your local ‘Freeman(?)’ chemist shop, why not try today?” (I can just imagine it being a tv advert). So. Leane states: “He injected himself with it”, really? Sounds like the story of the matches being repeated, no doubt Leane found the needle in the SM trouser pocket, but kept quiet about it? If not, where was the needle?

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    September 5, 2024
    • I think Leane was out to grass by the time that interview was made.

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      September 5, 2024

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