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The man seen alive in the evening was not the man found dead in the morning

 

 

Proved certain?

Proved beyond doubt?

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Believe it?

The body found dead on the morning of December 1 was wearing plain brown trousers.

Feltus missed it, both the Clelands missed it, the entire investigative team of detectives missed it. Derek Abbott missed it, Pelling the same, Cramer missed it. In fact, EVERYBODY missed it.

We spotted it  .. seventy years on.

Some would like to think the poison he may have taken made him sick and he took himself away for a change of clothing before returning to the beach to die. They should try making a movie out of that scenario.

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  1. Clive #

    Paul Lawson’s diary entry, “original body” comes to mind, and won’t go away.

    November 10, 2018
  2. Johnno has a lot to say about the Somerton Man over at Cipher Mysteries and the Voynich mob no doubt would like their favourite site back from the multitude of his comments. Nevertheless, the old lad does do his homework, only to confound everybody by putting it all through the blender before he plunks it on the keyboard.
    His comment above is worth considering as it demonstrates the grave difficulties facing those who don’t want to believe the facts. The view here is that there have been only two advances in the case in the last 70 years: the revelations found inside Gordon Cramer’s Q and the importance of one sentence in Gordon Strapp’s deposition.
    Two Gordons … the stars must be aligned.

    November 11, 2018
  3. gordon1552 #

    Hi Pete, given that there is an obvious difference in witness descriptions of the trousers and also given the, later, witness account of a man being carried along the same beach that night plus Clive’s comment re Paul Lawson’s Diary entry regarding ‘the original body’ I think that you are quite right to bring it up as a valid scenario. If you were in a CIB office and all the information was being reviewed and cross checked you are doing what they would do.

    November 11, 2018
  4. Gordon, old amigo, it’s frightening to think of all the publicity this case has had over the years: the blogs books films interviews newspaper articles and wordy essays of literacy and intent, police reports, cold case reviews, magazine features, the Wikipedia bible, journalistic reviews and podcasts … yet no mention of the striped trousers V the plain.
    How do you think Abbott feels now, knowing for certain the body was transported to its resting place, already dead? My betting is that nothing will come if it.
    And Feltus, he missed it too. Everybody did.
    The shame if it, everybody being so clever and all.

    November 11, 2018
    • gordon1552 #

      I’ll hold my hand up, I missed it and shouldn’t have. Good work Pete.

      November 11, 2018
      • Imagine such an egregious mistake being made by the Voynich mob in their quest. They’d all stay mum as well … and I can’t claim any credit, the coronial depositions have been sitting on my bookshelf for eight years. Bloody woeful !

        November 11, 2018
  5. NickP … The same man but different clothes? How could that work? Everything he owned was in a suitcase back at the station.

    November 13, 2018
  6. Пожалуйста #

    Because he’s puked all over them (and his shoes?) in the early stages of poisoning? Friend lends him some fresh duds “til the morning”. Somewhere nearby.

    What size was he? What size was his friend?

    March 4, 2020
    • Пожалуйста #

      Maybe it’s a lack of imagination, but I can’t think of a scenario that explains the different bodies theory. So the (possibly) alive “early” SM is a decoy? What’s he decoying, obfuscating, occulting?

      The degree of premeditation required for this is presumably considerable. We’re talking a team of people, a plan, communication. Feels like it puts us back in spy (melodrama”) territory?

      March 4, 2020
      • You need to do some research, in particular the account given to Gerry Feltus (know of him, do you?) about a man seen carrying a man along the shore of Somerton Beach the night before the body was found .. Do the work, mate, save me the explanation. No offence, but we’ve been dealing with this for a very long time.

        March 4, 2020
        • Пожалуйста #

          No offence taken. I was aware of the report of a “body” being carried.

          My thing is motivations. And while I would normally subscribe to “the how IS the why”, the multiple body scenario feels too … baroque?… for that. Especially when matching it up with something as (seemingly) quotidian as car theft.

          March 4, 2020
  7. Clive #

    So, on the evening of 30 November, per Gordon Strapps, the SM trousers were brown-striped, but less than 12 hours later, he was found deceased wearing plain brown trousers. Didn’t DA remark that the trousers in the suitcase were plain brown and had sand in the cuffs? Thought goes through my mind that, he was taken to the beach on 30 November, wearing the brown striped trousers without the Taman Shud slip of paper. This was a crucial mistake(?) and he was picked up, taken away and, his trousers were exchanged to plain brown, with the Taman Shud slip carefully concealed, by early 1 December, he was back on the beach. The brown striped trousers were not in the suitcase(?). Did both sets of the brown trousers have laundry cleaning marks in side?

    July 19, 2020
    • Sounds like you’re echoing Cramer … Think it through.
      A dead man is lifted up from the beach and taken away – unseen. He is relieved of his trousers.
      The man with the trousers (somehow) gets access to the Adelaide luggage office and SM’s suitcase, unseen.
      He takes a pair of faun-brown trousers out of the case and puts the striped pair back. Unseen
      Lodges the suitcase again. Unseen.
      Goes back to wherever the partly unclothed body has been stashed and puts on the faun-brown duds.
      Transports the body back to the beach and sticks a cigarette under its chin.
      Walks away.

      July 19, 2020
  8. Clive #

    Perhaps! But, sometime after 8.00pm on 30 Nov and 6.00am on 1 Dec, the SM’s trousers turn from striped to plain brown. How come the trousers in the suitcase had sand in the cuffs? And his shoes were devoid of any scuff marks etc, which, in itself, should have raised some questions as to how he managed to avoid getting his shoes scuffed etc. so somewhere/someone in the wee small hours(?) changes his trousers and cleaned his shoes(?) or, was a new pair of shoes fitted?

    July 19, 2020
  9. MDBevan #

    Hate to be all ‘Occam’s razor’, but…

    I was actually thinking about this one a few days ago…

    I would not be quick to exclude ‘interpretation’ as an explanation. Is it possible that the same pair of pants could have been described in two different ways by two separate viewers? Maybe when the word ‘plain’ was chosen, it was ‘plain’ as opposed to polka dotted, or corduroy? I have a black-on-black pinstriped suit that most people would describe as ‘black’. I strongly believe that the only discrepancy here lies I the perceptions and wording of two people about the same pair of trousers.

    October 3, 2020
    • MDBevan .. on a personal note: have you ever been asked to supply a statement to the police or to the court?
      I have, more than once and believe me .. getting it right tends to occupy your mind for quite some time before the event.
      Strapps was a young man, he was sitting a yard away (refer to Lyons deposition) the light was good, he was there for half and hour.

      And if you examine his statement, in particular the abbreviation of the word should to shd – you might imagine he was making a point, perhaps in the face of some doubt by the man on the other side of the desk. Not unlike you.

      October 3, 2020

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