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eric nave: denying the codebreaker

A couple of months ago I walked away from SM and wandered into the Voynich badlands for a while with a loosely based proposition and met some of the locals.

Like Rene Zandbergen, Diane O’ Donovan, Stephen Bax and some of the heavyweights working out of the Voynich Ninja forum. They were patient and I don’t think any of them miss me.

These people have known years of painstaking, methodical, minute examination of words and symbols that have remained unintelligible for hundreds of years. They all use magnifying glasses and the blokes look like Buddy Holly.

And every one of them wants to the the first to crack the Voynich Manuscript. ┬áNot all of them are in love with each other but what’s new about that?

These are the folks that I would like to put this to:

If an accomplished code breaker is given a photographic image of what had been a series of indentations shaped as capital letters; indentations that had been carefully inked over then photographed by the local police force, could he carry on in all confidence?

Could you?

I’ll stick this post up on a few of the VM forums later – see if they remember me.

here:

https://voynich.ninja/thread-2008.html

header pic is umberto eco drooling over the vm

8 Comments Post a comment
  1. Nave interpreted the markings as being an acrostic, as did the Army code breakers in Melbourne (after several weeks of trying). It’s all in Trove, you’ve seen the links.

    Claiming that I dreamed up the acrostic analysis is therefore counterfactual nonsense, presumably because it’s easier to rubbish me than to bother to read newspaper articles in Trove.

    July 20, 2017
    • Rubbish, all of it. No such article exists as far as you know, that’s why you’re breaking your neck trying to find it.

      July 20, 2017
      • There is no article linking Nave directly, and it is entirely possible that the “local Navy decoder” was just a cipher clerk at Port Adelaide. And if it turns out my guess about Nave was wrong, you’ll no doubt crow about it for a year and a day.

        But the acrostic ‘diagnosis’ appears in the newspapers, attributed to both the “local Navy decoder” and to the Army code breakers in Melbourne. Can we at least agree on that?

        July 21, 2017
  2. I don’t care if you find an article linking Nave or not … I said in the beginning I was on your side with regards to finding him involved, because I’m as certain he wasn’t as you are he was.
    As a matter of fact, if I was you I would be hoping Nave didn’t have a look at the code … he may have asked a few pertinent questions – the letter R comes to mind.

    July 21, 2017
  3. This might amuse you. When I was an unruly long-haired student at one of Sydney’s better schools we would pass coded messages around a select few in the class, particularly when the highly despised Mr O’Grady was teaching Ancient History.
    Like this:
    MOGIABOB
    and expect a response like this
    MOGIABOFB

    .. and on, we were using an acrostic code of course.

    It’s no wonder nearly everybody thinks the Tamam Shud code is an acrostic … it’s such a simple conclusion to make, one that requires no real thought.

    Mr O’Grady is a bad old bastard
    Mr O’Grady is a bald old f.cken bastard

    I have a different proposition.

    July 21, 2017
    • john sanders #

      Coincidently at my school, Gouburn High, not Cranbourne svp, we had a real jolly soul in the form of Mrs. O’Grady who tought the popular subject, English debating technique for some God unknown reason; we also used an acronym for her…Molly O’grady is a babbling old bitch…Cheers from we, the eternally greatful toilers of Can Tho, where labour is a privledge not an ordeal and there can be no rest. So have a happy restful weekend people and as always watch your backs for our star is in ascendence.

      July 22, 2017
      • Nobody toils in Can Tho, it’s all coffee cheap booze and seafood.

        July 23, 2017
  4. I won’t post your inanity, nickpelling, but you must be happy to see the discussion about the Tamam Shud code has moved to your peer group’s site.

    Where I hope to make further contributions as time goes by.

    Gordon ?

    (view discussion here)

    https://voynich.ninja/thread-2008.html

    July 23, 2017

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